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City MP Karl McCartney urges support for more trains from Lincoln to London

By Lincolnshire Echo  |  Posted: September 13, 2012

  • Conservative MP Karl McCartney will back a call for more Lincoln to London trains

  • The East Coast Mainline train

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MP Karl McCartney is urging people to support a call for more Lincoln to London trains before it is too late.

There are just two daily direct returns to the capital, but the new East Coast Franchise from next December could see extra direct and through trains.

To help make this happen, people can complete and post the form on this page or send views to ICE@dft.gsi.gov.uk before September 18.

Council bosses in Lincolnshire want at least two extra returns a day, and in and ideal world, an early morning arrival from London.

Mr McCartney, MP for Lincoln, said local priorities include a more regular, direct, quicker commutable journey between Lincoln and London, and more connections to the East Coast Mainline for journeys north and south.

He said: "I would like as many people in Lincoln and Lincolnshire as possible to make a submission to the consultation before the September 18 deadline so that we can make clear to the Government the need and demand for more direct trains to and from our capital city.

"The Government intends that the franchise specification should be less prescriptive than previously, allowing bidders greater scope to propose service improvements to meet passenger demand.

"I shall be urging the DfT to continue to work with stakeholders in Lincoln and elsewhere to ensure that local priorities are properly understood and evaluated as the specification for the new franchise is developed."

Emma Tatlow, manager at the Visit Lincoln Partnership, said better rail services are key to the future success of the city's visitor economy.

"In order for Lincoln to grow as a destination, attracting not only leisure visitors but also students and business tourism, it is critical the city is well connected by rail," she said.

"We support additional train services coming into the city and in particular services from London. Transport links are often a barrier when potential visitors are considering where to take a short break, study and hold conferences and events."

Chris Briggs, Lincolnshire County Council's head of transportation, said: "At a recent consultation, the question about Lincoln was raised and the representative from the DfT said Lincoln had been noted, which is good news."

He added that longer trains would not be an issue.

He said: "Trains coming from Leeds would be too long but there are other stations across the country where passengers can't get off on the last two carriages, and we would encourage that."

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  • StopTheCuts  |  September 16 2012, 11:02AM

    I wonder whether it's the Echo or the ever-hapless Karl McCartney that managed to get the email address in the story wrong. It's actually: ICEC@dft.gsi.gov.uk

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  • Mr_Sneer  |  September 15 2012, 6:40PM

    To all you people wanting these extra services, would you be willing to have your tax bill increased to subsidise them in the event that they aren't viable?

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  • peak3  |  September 15 2012, 5:13PM

    who would have thought under privatisation lincoln would loose our direct lincoln skegness / lincoln cleethorpes services, british rail managed to provide these services. once apon a time four express cleethorpes kings cross trains were available but british rail did end these trains so cant blame privatisation for that. our mp most look at lincolnshires rail services before venturing in to the unknown especially regarding sunday services which is appalling & needing a full reworking of the time table. a full service is supposed to be provided on every bank holiday, this includes new years day when most trains run empty. the prospect of a daytime london service by the affilliates could be on the cards once the upgrade of the joint line is complete with higher line speeds runing via sleaford, spalding & peterborough to london including sundays but it always boils down to money which is usually the decision maker.

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  • EASTLEIGH33  |  September 14 2012, 12:37AM

    Without getting TOO technical, I would very much doubt we will get East Coast to run a morning London-Lincoln.....for this reason. East coast has a fleet of 31 Electric trainsets...which obviously cannot operate to Lincoln. For services that run to un-electrified places, ie Aberdeen, Inverness, Hull, Lincoln it relies on its small fleet of 125s on deisel. These are cleverly timetabled....ie one set morning Aberdeen-London then evening up to Hull. Another set morning Inverness-London then to Lincoln or Skipton in the evening which gets it "home" to the depot in Leeds for maintenance. (The lincoln services run to/from Leeds empty each day before/after their trip....but amusingly empty Lincoln up to NEWCASTLE for servicing on a Saturday night!) To have a morning start from London to Lincoln would mean an " extra " set ------at huge lease cost which I doubt would be paid. As I have written several times before, in my opinion the villain here is not East Coast but East Midlands trains. They could quite easily simply EXTEND a London-Nottingham or two or three down the line to Newark and Lincoln....especially as most trainsets sit at Nottingham for nearly an hour between trips. But they choose not to.

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  • EASTLEIGH33  |  September 14 2012, 12:09AM

    Mmm....thanks for jumping on the bandwagon Mr McCartney but, as someone else said can you turn your attention to other matters? 1 No service by rail or bus on Sundays to Grimsby. 2 No Nottingham-Lincoln service til teatime....no Lincoln-Nottingham til 15.00 on Sundays. 3 No Peterborough service after 16.00 weekdays and none at all on Sundays. 4 No direct Lincoln -Skegness services on any day. 5 No Sheffield service til 15.00 on Sundays. Last Sheffield-Lincoln weekdays 19.45 when in BR days it was 22.30 6 Both 11.00 and 13.00 sundays to Newark are timed to miss northbound connections at Newark by a few minutes and only connect southbound. 7 A TOTAL failure on the part of all that Lincoln has grown immensly since the university came but has a far worse service than before it was built.

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  • peak3  |  September 13 2012, 11:33PM

    why does eveything point south, how about north things are good there too, promotion on the railways or local council never get that far.

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  • Gnome_Chomsky  |  September 13 2012, 11:07PM

    XNY556 - Doesn't that depend on where you are travelling from?

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  • XNY556  |  September 13 2012, 10:29PM

    It is nearly as quick to drive to Newark as it is to get into the centre of Lincoln and find somewhere to park your car. Is this guy serious?

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  • TomWhimpole  |  September 13 2012, 4:12PM

    I'm sure KM is keen on this link since he obviously would use it. For the rest of us perhaps the road systems around Lincoln are more of a priority.

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