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Concern over shake-up of bus services between Teal Park and Birchwood in Lincoln

By Lincolnshire Echo  |  Posted: November 15, 2012

  • Changes: Dave Skepper, of Stagecoach East Midlands, says temporary measures have been put in place in which buses stop opposite the north side stop

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A shake-up of bus services to ferry people between a new business park and a housing estate is causing concern for residents.

Connections to Teal Park, which is off Whisby Road, mean buses are now running in both directions through Birchwood, Lincoln.

But people living on the estate say some of the roads are not wide enough to accommodate two-way bus traffic.

Dad-of-two Philip Robinson, 34, who lives in Aldergrove Crescent, said his eldest daughter Layla, five, is now frightened of buses after they saw one mount the kerb to get by as they were walking along.

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"On Halloween I was with Layla and my two-year-old Poppy in Aldergrove Crescent," said Mr Robinson, a shop worker.

"A bus was coming towards us and a bus was also coming from behind us. The two buses clearly didn't fit on the road and the bus on our side had to mount the kerb.

"This caused me to panic and grab my two children.

"The bus was about eight metres away.

"It wasn't going to hit us but because of the size of the bus this has really scared my five-year-old.

"Recently, the bus route seems to have changed and buses come down here in both directions.

"I think a solution would be to send one bus via Birchwood Avenue, Pershore Way and Woodfield Avenue to allow a bus to come down Aldergrove Crescent.

"I have contacted the bus station to raise my concerns and they have replied.

"They said sorry and that health and safety is their main concern.

"However, on November 3, buses were again congesting on Aldergrove crescent and using the kerb to fit on the road."

Neighbour Alexander Cowen, 76, of Aldergrove Crescent, shares Mr Robinson's concerns.

"We had a normal bus service before and it was a completely harmonious situation," he said.

Dave Skepper, commercial director of Stagecoach East Midlands, stressed that public safety is always the main consideration when negotiating tight spaces.

He added that Aldergrove Crescent should be wide enough for two oncoming buses to pass but, very occasionally, parked cars may cause problems.

"We have asked the county council to install a bus stop on the southern side of the road although this will take some time to arrange," said Mr Skepper.

"In the meantime we have made temporary arrangements for buses to stop opposite the north side stop.

"We apologise for any inconvenience caused over the first few days of the revised service."

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  • Roadscource  |  November 16 2012, 12:47PM

    "On Halloween I was with Layla and my two-year-old Poppy in Aldergrove Crescent," You really should donate to Remembrance Sunday each time and not just save your poppy year after year.

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  • Phil1W  |  November 16 2012, 11:52AM

    I think you will find the reason for the buses going around Teal Park is because the county council are subsidising it. If you look at the route branding along the roof edge above the windows you will see at the back on the red part of the company livery the council logo alongside the Stagecoach logo.

  • InsideStory  |  November 15 2012, 7:33PM

    Total waste of taxpayers money to keep installing new high rise bus stops then changing direction of routes leaving perfectly good bus stops redundant .

  • Billy_the_Imp  |  November 15 2012, 7:09PM

    I think you'll find that there aren't any more buses on routes 44 & 66. They've just played around with the route, so that the 'new' 44A goes to Teal Park. Just another philanthropic gesture from Stagecoach, who are runnning the service out of the goodness of their hearts. Why is it ok for local authorities to pay subsidies to private bus companies, but it was a crime for local authorities to run the same services at a loss?

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  • InsideStory  |  November 15 2012, 6:21PM

    For more buses to run out of Lincoln later you need passengers to board them to make then viable to run, you cant run large vehicle just for the few .Bus services are run as profitable company's and are no longer run by the tax payers unless it is a subsidised route and the Council will not pay the going rate to the bus company's to make it viable . The bus route in my view was changed to include Teal Park to prevent another company operating a route in to the park making it a more of a Monopoly in Lincoln. The sooner the government steps in to change the way in which company's over saturate routes with vehicles to prevent competition the better it will be for the traveling public .

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  • Hussydog  |  November 15 2012, 5:32PM

    I am unsure as to why the complaint is there and how this makes a news story? I too have a 5 year old that has seen things and made him scared but unfortunately that is life and children do well learning from young ages that they should be aware of what is going on around them. Just because you are on a pavement, cyclists ride on them, so does this mean your child would be scared of bikes? Cars often cross pavements to access driveways and garages so again will they be scared of cars too? I do not mean to sound harsh but a little less cotton wool maybe required. Whilst i can empathize with the situation, the need for the bus service is obviously required otherwise Stagecoach would not put this in place, at the end of the day they are a company driven on profits (excuse the pun) and people must be making this service profitable. On the other hand, is it just the Birchwood which will get additional services or will North Hykeham, Brant Road and Bracebridge receive a similar increase in bus service heading in the teal park direction or is it required to get 2 buses or god forbid, drive to Teal park area? Just a thought as I imagine the area will become like the rest of Lincoln soon and impossible to drive in around peak hours!

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  • M_C_Donald  |  November 15 2012, 2:03PM

    Phil When I lived on Aldergrove we used to have busses running in both directions. Less than a year after installing the bus stops the busses were switched to one direction.

  • Phil1W  |  November 15 2012, 1:39PM

    If you look on street view on Google map you can actually see a double decker on Aldergrove Cresent. Its not the best of views but I'd think that with care two buses should be able to pass each other ok. The other thing is that Google map also shows bus stops on both sides of the road so is this something new? I wonder if Philip Robinson is a bus user or car user. I think most bus users would just be grateful to have a bus service like the one on the Birchwood/Doddington Park estates!

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  • newsreaderjoy  |  November 15 2012, 9:58AM

    Personally i think there should be more busses out of Lincoln and a later bus service for surrounding villages as there aren't many jobs in Lincoln. I often see 2 following each other since the new timetable and wonder why teal park needs to alter the bus services so drastically. The wider issue is how the layout of Lincoln makes no sense at all but that's another story

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