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Drivers and shoppers taking risks at 'danger junction' in Lincoln

By Lincolnshire Echo  |  Posted: November 15, 2012

  • First aid: Emergency services rush to the aid of a woman cyclist who was in collision with a lorry on the junction of High Street, Lincoln and St Mark Street. Pictures: Anna Draper

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A road safety expert has warned a trip to the shops could become one to the hospital unless people take more care at a busy Lincoln junction.

It comes after a cyclist was trapped beneath a lorry at the corner of St Mark Street, Tentercroft Street and High Street.

The vehicle, thought to belong to Danish transport company DSV, was turning into St Mark Street when it happened.

The 57-year-old woman was rushed to hospital with serious leg injuries.

The Echo, along with John Siddle from the Lincolnshire Road Safety Partnership, monitored the junction on Monday, November 12.

And in just a 30-minute period drivers were seen using their mobile phones, drinking coffee and even eating biscuits while navigating the junction.

Mr Siddle said: "For a built-up area with so many children and people around there are a lot using the junction who don't pay enough attention.

"I was surprised at the incident that happened because no one expects a pedal cycle and a lorry to come together, but this is a very busy area and too often people have other things on their mind when they're using the junction.

"There's a lot going on so we need to make sure we have our wits about us when we're using it.

"I certainly think people take unnecessary risks when they're driving through town at this junction especially. The popularity of this end of town and the popularity of St Marks makes this one of the busiest junctions, especially with it being a four-way junction.

"All the safety features are in place and we have crossings and clearly-defined no-go areas but traffic is coming from every direction so people need to take more consideration.

"People crossing at this junction, in particular, need to remember it's better to be a minute late to get to where they're going than not make it there at all. People need to think if they'd rather have a trip to the shops or a trip to the hospital."

Some vehicles spotted by the Echo – from motorbikes to articulated lorries – even crossed road markings into oncoming traffic while using the junction.

Many pedestrians dashed across the road while the lights for oncoming traffic were still green. Others ignored them completely and opted to cross the busy High Street without using any of the safety features in place.

The cyclist involved in the collision with the lorry, which occurred at 9.23am on Thursday, November 8, was still in a stable condition in hospital on Wednesday, November 14.

Gaz Thomas, 21, who works at the nearby Musicroom, said: "It's one of those things where lorries shouldn't be allowed down here.

"There are always near misses because people are always rushing.

"I even struggle to get around the turn in my car in second gear."

It is hoped that the proposed east-west link road for Lincoln will help make it easier for lorries and large vehicles to use the junction.

Proposals are for work to begin in 2014 with a view to opening in 2016.

Les Davies, senior project leader at Lincolnshire County Council for the road, said: "As part of the east-west link road, the intention is for the High Street, north of this junction, to be pedestrianised and the junction itself to be widened."

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  • VictorToo  |  November 19 2012, 9:27AM

    Probably a bit late to enter the arguement, but if the situation was that the lady was trying to overtake the lorry by riding up the inside, then it's her fault. Anyone with any sense knows that you don't overtake a large vehicle at a junction when it's moving. Also, the driver will have been looking forward to make sure he isn't going to hit any of the cars in front of him (it is a very tight turn), or any of the stupid pedestrians who'll try to cross the road even though their light is on red. The only way this is the drivers fault will be if he tried to overtake her before he turned and cut round in front of her before he was fully past.

  • Roadscource  |  November 16 2012, 11:32AM

    "We are not discussing a scenario you have created" Myself and Fragpig were. Lets assume she did not throw herself under the lorry. Therefore the side of the trailer travelled sideways over her as the huge void created by the overturning lorry in order to perform the left turn (which she had placed herself in) was being used up as the vehicle completed the manouvre. She was therefore plainly visible in the left mirror, with its extra panoramic lense fitted for that very purpose, had the driver bothered to look instead of assuming the space was clear. Driver error.

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  • M_C_Donald  |  November 16 2012, 11:22AM

    No we dont, which is why we were discussing the scenario i had created." We are not discussing a scenario you have created (unless you shoved a cyclist under a HGV in the High Street); you have placed the blame for this collision solely at the feet of the HGV driver based solely on supposition.

  • Fragpig2  |  November 16 2012, 11:05AM

    "she put herself in harms way Obviously. But then assuming she is not a HGV license holder then how would she have known? " Are you being contrary on purpose? I tell my kids lorries are dangerous, she's an adult she should know, i know we are not expected to possess common sense these days, but yes, sliding your push bike down the side of an HGV at a junction is dangerous. Take responsibilty for your own safety no one else will.

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  • Roadscource  |  November 16 2012, 10:14AM

    "No, but if a child runs out in front of my vehicle and I can't stop in time and hit them, I cannot be held at fault." Whilst your statement is far from accurate excessive speed was not a factor here. Slow moving HGV and, unless it was Bradley Wiggins, then also a slow moving cyclist so plenty of time and opportunity to get it right. "We don't have the full facts of what occurred here and therefore we are not in a position to apportion blame" No we dont, which is why we were discussing the scenario i had created. "she put herself in harms way" Obviously. But then assuming she is not a HGV license holder then how would she have known? The driver would know as he is a highly skilled HGV license holder and should have stopped to allow her to continue safely before progressing. But its all ok because he didnt bother to be vigilant and expect normal town centre features such as cyclists.

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  • M_C_Donald  |  November 16 2012, 9:59AM

    Roadscource "...if a child runs into the path of your vehicle, does this give you the right to run them over because they've made a mistake?" No, but if a child runs out in front of my vehicle and I can't stop in time and hit them, I cannot be held at fault. We don't have the full facts of what occurred here and therefore we are not in a position to apportion blame.

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  • Fragpig2  |  November 16 2012, 9:57AM

    Roadscourse you would get away with it as we have seen numerous times recently. Your argument isn't the same though, the lorry driver would have been at the junction 1st otherwise he would have stayed behind the cyclist, she slipped in at the side of him because he left a gap to be able to make the turn, she put herself in harms way. She shouldn't have been there as he would have been indicating left and unfortunately he didn't see her, lorries have blind spots and drivers shouldn't expect that they have been seen. The lorry driver can't be expected to take a walk round his lorry everytime he wants to turn, and indeed when he gets back in the cab a cyclist may try to get ahead and slip past.

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  • Roadscource  |  November 16 2012, 9:39AM

    "The lorry driver mustn't have seen her" So if i clean you up when your out on your Kawa and use the defence that i was not aware of other road users in the vicinity when a collision occurs you would find that acceptable?

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  • Fragpig2  |  November 16 2012, 9:21AM

    Looking at the position of the lorry, it will have had to have been positioned to the right, so when it turned left it didn't mount the pavement and clip the barriers, she slipped down the space down the left hand side presumably missing his left indicator, and assuming he was going right as he was positioned to the right, or presumed he could maintain the gap to the left throughout the left hand turn. The lorry driver mustn't have seen her, she was maybe along side the cab. This is a common accident, however vigilant the lorry driver is, he can't be solely looking in the side mirror, he will have looked before he turned but didn't see her. As a cyclist and motorcyclist myself, i take responsibility for my own safety, i don't expect others to as invariably others driving is very poor. I would never slip down the inside of a lorry, i would hang behind it and certainly check which way it was going, remember they may swing out to be able to clear a corner.

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  • Roadscource  |  November 16 2012, 7:54AM

    "Please give a logical answer and not the usual bull" They are always logical just not understood. If she walked out in front, wether for a bizarre reason or not, then why didnt he see her? Do they also now need a mirror to see forwards? But anyway i think she rode up the left side of the vehicle whilst he made the left turn as he was moving slowly, as he already has a mirror for seeing up the left there is no excuse. And before you say its her fault because she should not have done it consider this: if a child runs into the path of your vehicle, does this give you the right to run them over because theyve made a mistake?

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