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Lincoln lollipop man injured in hit-and-run fears closure of his crossing

By Lincolnshire Echo  |  Posted: June 01, 2012

  • Injured: Dave Ellis was on duty as a crossing person at Monks Abbey School, Lincoln, when a car hit him knocking his stop sign out of his hand and breaking his wrist. Pictures: Anna Draper

  • Injured: Dave Ellis was on duty as a crossing person at Monks Abbey School, Lincoln, when a car hit him knocking his stop sign out of his hand and breaking his wrist.

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A school crossing patrol is at risk of being removed after a lollipop man was injured in a hit and run in Lincoln.

Dave Ellis, 41, broke his right thumb after a car struck the post of his lollipop sign and knocked it from his grasp.

He helps pupils from Monks Abbey Primary School cross Milman Road, off Monks Road, Lincoln, where the collision happened.

It has been revealed that there have been ten similar incidents between the crossing and one in Monks Road since September last year.

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And it is now feared that the Milman Road patrol could be withdrawn.

"No kids got hurt so that's the main thing," said Mr Ellis, of Dorset Street.

"I'm hoping to be back at work soon and as far as I'm concerned this incident will not stop me doing my job.

"I hope they don't get rid of the patrol at this spot.

"The children depend on it and I would not want my children to try to get across without a patrol."

Parents are also in support of keeping the patrol.

"It wouldn't be nice if the patrol was removed because it's not safe getting across the road," said Hayley Scott, 28, who has one child and three step-children and lives on the Tower estate.

And mum-of-three Sharon Denford, 29, of Monks Road, said: "I asked about getting a camera ages ago because some people even ignore the pedestrian crossing.

"People need to realise they're driving past a school."

But John Siddle, spokesman for Lincolnshire Road Safety Partnership, said if drivers don't take more care, the patrol could be lost.

"If things don't improve and drivers don't respect patrollers then we may have to consider the removal of the school crossing patrol in Milman Road," he said.

"No one wants that. We recognise that it is also dangerous for the Monks Road patroller as well.

"We have had about ten incidents between these two crossing patrol locations since September last year.

"For the whole county last year there were 25 incidents.

"We need people to come forward after this latest incident and say to the police, 'Yes, I saw that car'.

"Mr Ellis clearly needs the support of the community.

"We need to make sure he's safe in his place of work and we have a duty of care to him."

The use of cameras to catch motorists who break the law is also being considered.

Anyone with information about the incident, which happened at about 3.30pm on May 17, should call Lincolnshire police on 101.

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  • malcolmbrhc  |  June 23 2012, 2:28PM

    Just a PS to the posters who suggest putting just one foot off the kerb. It's better if you do it with a baby in a push chair. That way if the worst comes to the worst, you've only lost a baby, not yourself, and the jury will have sympathy for you and probably find the motorist who hit you guilty of manslaughter. There'll also be the compo, and fees for appearances on the Jeremy Kyle show.

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  • malcolmbrhc  |  June 23 2012, 2:24PM

    You can tell this is Lincoln! The worst drivers in the country on roads with the worst vehicle per mile accident rate. I am from Yorkshire, and we have a breed of pedestrian who will deliberately throw themselves in front of cars on pedestrian crossings in order to claim compensation. My wife used to live in Nottingham, and she stopped at a crossing on Woodborough Road once, only to have her passenger window bricked and her handbag stolen from the passenger seat. She now says that if someone is too slow crossing the road she will just run them down. She is a terrible driver anyway - took her test 17 times and passed at the age of about 38. Her driving instructor had a nervous breakdown. She's now 68 and hasn't improved - try to avoid a blue Chevrolet hatchback being driven erratically. It might be her.

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  • InsideStory  |  June 01 2012, 6:34PM

    If mothers didn't congregate next to the crossing gabbing to each other drivers would know people want to cross if the want to natter to friends move away from the damn crossing entrance. But saying that i have always said it should be controlled by lights and not by a lollipop person.

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  • monksmoll  |  June 01 2012, 6:14PM

    Many thanks for the information. However, I shall be forever cautious to the positioning of a single toe on the edge of said kerb as have limited trust or expectation of some drivers! Instead I will pursue the 'smile and stare hard' into the eye of driver and hope that a combination of shaming and gratitude will encourage them to come to a halt. In the event of them ignoring me I will make angry shoulder shrugging motions and ineffectual tutting noises in a very English/European fashion!!

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  • gsx1100  |  June 01 2012, 5:58PM

    With regards to a Zebra crossing, monksmoll, the motorist must give way when someone has moved ONTO a crossing. Therefore, if you stand at the kerb, motorists are not obliged to stop. If you put one foot, carefully, on the very edge of the crossing, then technically you are on it and the vehicles are required by law to stop.

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  • monksmoll  |  June 01 2012, 3:41PM

    I cannot express in strong enough terms the disatisfaction of the comments regarding removal of the crossing patrol. I take it that this persons child/children do not attend the school. I am amazed that there have not been more serious accidents on the zebra crossing on Monks Road. I live round the corner and almost every time I go to use the crossing, cars continue to drive on without stopping as I and others wait to cross. I am a non-driver but have always been led to believe the highway code stipulates that when a pedestrian is waiting to cross they must stop. Saying that a police car failed to stop on Tuesday and it was not flashing blues so not in an emergency! Brilliant. A reduced speed limit that operates during the 30 minutes at the beginning and end of the school day would help no end. As a side note safety would also be improved if a large number of parents who drive to the school (often locals who think it's too dangerous for their kids to walk because of inconsiderate drivers!!!) would adhere to the parking restrictions and not park on the corners causing a danger of blind spots for those children who walk to school (How ironic). They seem to think their little darlings are more important than others!! All take a bit more social responsibility and the world could be a safer place for everyone. Rant over.

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  • Sandy_C1967  |  June 01 2012, 2:02PM

    "It has been revealed that there have been ten similar incidents between the crossing and one in Monks Road since September last year." 10 incidents so they may remove that patrol!!! Doesn't make any sense! Are the kids going to be safer WITHOUT a crossing patrol, especially with the idiots that drive through or at the current patrol staff?

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  • VictorToo  |  June 01 2012, 1:41PM

    It's getting so it isn't safe to cross the road, so what's the answer - remove the lollipop man. Surely they should be adressing the problem of the dangerous motorists, removing the crossing patrol will only make a bad situation worse.

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  • Lincoln_Biker  |  June 01 2012, 10:42AM

    Just to provide a little balance to the discussion, I feel I must point out that I have seen a couple of occasions where lollipop people have merely walked out into traffic without looking, with their signs up, forcing motorists to perform dangerous stopping manouvres. Just because you're covered in high-vis and you have a 'stop' sign doesnt make you immune to the dangers of road traffic. Whilst the crossing patrols perform a service to our young family members that we are all very grateful for, perhaps they could lead by example and demonstrate good practical use of the green cross code.

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  • Phil1W  |  June 01 2012, 10:18AM

    I don't know so much about the Milman Road crossing as I don't drive past him usually but the old guy on the Monks Road crossing at the zebra crossing causes a fair bit of frustration to drivers. While watching with one eye on the zebra crossing for pedestrians ready to cross you have to watch for the lollypop man jumping out while pedestrians are still feet away from the crossing. Then he will either stand there waiting for someone else that is still a fair distance of or he will do his little dance and go back on the pavement and let one or two cars through before jumping out again for just one pedestrian to cross. He's worse when the children are coming out of the school as he will still stop the traffic one at a time to cross a couple of kids. When the previous lollipop lady was there she would make the kids and parents wait a minute so that they crossed in larger groups and therefore did not seem to cause such traffic tailbacks as the present one does. All this said, just how much training do lollypop patrol people get? With so many problems on these two crossings compared to others do the council do any checks on them to try to identify the causes of the problems? Removing the lollypop patrols completely certainly is not the answer. If its considered dangerous for adults then surely the council has a "duty of care" to the children!

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