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Patriots plan Lincoln return: 'We don't want you here'

By Lincolnshire Echo  |  Posted: December 07, 2013

Patriots plan Lincoln return: 'We don't want you here'
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An anti-mosque protest which is due to be held in Lincoln in the New Year has been labelled as "destructive" by a local politician.

The East Anglian Patriots group, which demonstrated in the city in June, has announced it will return on Saturday, January 18.

The previous rally attracted several hundreds of protestors in City Square.

The group says it is protesting about the building of a mosque on the site of the Old Dairy in Boultham Park Road.

But Councillor Brent Charlesworth, portfolio holder for social inclusion and community cohesion at the City of Lincoln Council, has told the group to stay away.

"What we all don't want is for outsiders to come here and cause upset in a city that has worked so hard to promote great community relationships," he said.

"Thus, our collective attitude towards the visit of the East Anglian Patriots is quite simple: don't come. We don't want you here. You will serve no useful purpose.

"We don't want to prevent free speech but all of us do not want trouble.

"The last thing we want is trouble on our streets and this will only have an entirely negative, destructive effect on community relationships.

"We live in a peaceful, progressive city and we want to keep it that way."

The anti-Islam group announced the protest on their Facebook page, which has more than 1,700 likes.

At the previous rally, police officers were drafted in from Nottinghamshire, Thames Valley, Northamptonshire and the Metropolitan Police to join their colleagues from Lincolnshire.

No arrests were made.

A counter demonstration, similar to one held in June, will again be present in the city.

Nick Parker, secretary of Lincoln & District TUC, has called on the public to unite against the East Anglian Patriots.

He said: "Local trade unions are totally opposed to the far-right East Anglian Patriots group.

"The EAP and other groups like to whip up racism and division among local communities and seek to blame Muslim people for the problems in our society.

"We call on working-class people in Lincoln to focus on what unites us – the need for a society that can offer us all decent jobs, homes, and public services – and reject the racism and community division that the far-right has to offer."

Nobody from the East Anglian Patriots was available for comment.

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  • gsx1100  |  December 11 2013, 9:21PM

    Substantiate: To establish by proof or competent evidence. You have provided neither proof or any iota of evidence of your claims, Ivanbrownbear, regarding Lincolnshire being the second most racist county in the UK. Why? because it's, quite simply, untrue.

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  • jimub40  |  December 10 2013, 4:18PM

    Well Lincoln fan or whatever you are its not about punctuation or grammar its what is in the heart and clearly you are not a true English patriot your probably one of these do gooders and the only thing good enough for you would be a point 303 bullet.

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  • Pete67  |  December 10 2013, 1:02PM

    SwissxFrank - - - By 'eck you go a long pedantic and confusing way to make a point, but I shall attempt to answer. The one that is seemingly attributed to 'Lincoln_Fan' (though actually mine) - Have you never watched any documentaries (yes more than one), on TV where they have interviewed teachers who are having these problems teaching the non English speaking at the detriment of the English speaking? (of course you could also read about in in the tabloids, but their stories tend to be embellished slightly). I never said some people of other Nationalities were never Christian, but I would agree about the violence being no excuse. It does though sound out of context without Lincoln_Fan's comment. The one that is seemingly attributed to yourself (also actually mine), - Are we to assume that over 50% of the people voted for him? If he went round and found out what people actually think instead of giving his own personal view he would have a much better idea of what people wanted. Don't forget many people will only vote for a candidate as a tactical vote to stop a candidate who they dislike more getting 'in'. There are many people now who voted in the General Election who only voted Conservative or LIbDem to get the last useless lot out who now wish they'd 'stuck with the devil they knew'. People may be dissatisfied with what is happening in the World, but many are now totally against filling our already overloaded Country with more Foreigners, and some of this is also coming from the Immigrants who have moved here since WW2. It isn't a matter of hating Foreigners (though some obviously do), it's more a matter of England is a small Country with finite resources, and we just can't afford to keep stretching them out as everyone will end up with nothing.

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  • SwissxFrank  |  December 10 2013, 8:33AM

    "Lincoln_Fan - - - How many children of whichever Faith are being held back in English because the teacher has to mess about trying to make the non English speaking pupils understand? There are also some English people who have turned to the Muslim faith. One such case has just ended one in prison for trying to make an area down London Sharia only, so thank goodness not all Muslims are like him." Hey, I can answer this one. None. No children are failing English class because the teacher has to support non-ESL children. Because they learn it in a seperate class and have support through private tuition or extracurricular classes. Yes, there are also some Pakistani and Indian people who are Christians. Some Australians who are Taoist and I even know a few atheists from China. People can believe what they like. However, when people use it as an excuse for violence, whatever their religion, they will be punished according to the law. That's why free speech doesn't exist. "SwissxFrank - - - If he was voted in democratically he should still listen to what the majority of people who voted for him want. Just by doing what they want rather than the majority of the electorate, councillors are not doing what the voters voted for." Actually, he is representing the majority and doing what the majority they want. If he had run on a platform of anti-immigrant policies and pro-UKIP policy and had been voted in, the majority of his ward would believe in those policies. As he didn't and he was voted, the majority that voted him in don't believe in that. The vast majority of people, when polled, may express some dissatisfaction with nameless and faceless foreigners coming over here tekkin urr jerbs, but no actual hatred, no desire to kick them out, nothing at the level of anything approaching the EAP/UKIP/National Front by any other name scum that dare to go against what our grandfathers and fathers fought for in several world wars want to do. If anything, it's just a general dissatisfaction with everything going on in the world today and I'm sure you would get stronger opinions about Stagecoach or Tesco than you would about immigration from Vox Populi.

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  • Pete67  |  December 10 2013, 7:26AM

    Ivanbrownbear - - - You say about spending a lot of time up Yorkshire, but have you ever lived a few years in somewhere like Bradford, Halifax or Keighley. You have to live there and know the place completely for even as a regular visitor you may never come across any. When going up places like that it's more going where it exists and not just the parts a visitor would normally go.

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  • Ivanbrownbear  |  December 09 2013, 9:34PM

    gsx1100 - I substantiate: I have spent a lot of time in Yorkshire and Lincolnshire and have never encontered so much racism elsewhere.The Racial and Religious Hatred Act does not seem to apply to these counties? I grew up in London in 1960s where 50 percent of my classmates were black or Asian. We did not even notice this was a "problem" but our parents and grand parents called them all names. They were our friends. Children are taught to be racist - it is not a natural thought. "Yellowbelly is not derogative to Lincolnshire folk" - ? do not understand this comment. Love Thy Neighbour.

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  • Pete67  |  December 09 2013, 6:06PM

    Lincoln_Fan - - - How many children of whichever Faith are being held back in English because the teacher has to mess about trying to make the non English speaking pupils understand? There are also some English people who have turned to the Muslim faith. One such case has just ended one in prison for trying to make an area down London Sharia only, so thank goodness not all Muslims are like him.

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  • Pete67  |  December 09 2013, 10:58AM

    SwissxFrank - - - If he was voted in democratically he should still listen to what the majority of people who voted for him want. Just by doing what they want rather than the majority of the electorate, councillors are not doing what the voters voted for.

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  • SwissxFrank  |  December 09 2013, 8:42AM

    Pretty sure that as Brent Charlesworth was voted in using due democratic procedure, that he DOES represent the majority of people within his ward. And as the City Council is made up of people voted into that position using due democratic procedure, the overall view of being against the EAP IS technically that of the City of Lincoln as a whole. As with any group, you will get the very small fundamentalist and vocal minority who feel so aggrieved by a different culture because they are either unwilling or unable to understand it and integrate it into their personal world. And guess what? Free speech doesn't exist and has never existed. You think it's acceptable for people to preach hatred or intolerance of a religion, culture or race and hide behind free speech? Well why not invite a group of kiddy fiddlers around to protest outside Wilkinson's that paedophilia should be an accepted practice? I'm sure you'd be at the front line defending their right to free speech wouldn't you? Protecting them as they were pelted with rocks and dog ****s? Giving interviews to the Lincolnshire Echo about even how amazing England is that anyone can say anything they like regardless of how reprehensible that viewpoint is? Free speech is a myth and the sooner that **** like racism and anti-religious sentiment is eradicated, the better.

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  • 4caster  |  December 08 2013, 4:27PM

    'Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel' (Dr Samuel Johnson, 7th April 1775). On 8th October, 1915, 47-year-old British nurse Edith Cavell was executed by firing squad in occupied Belgium for her role in helping over 200 Allied soldiers escape to the Netherlands during World War 1. On the eve of her execution, she told her pastor: 'Patriotism is not enough, I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone'. Her noble expression of that belief generated huge support in the USA for its entry into the war. In Charing Cross Road, London, is a statue of Cavell, bearing that quotation.

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