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Police hunt 25 football hooligans after clash in Lincoln

By AlexColman  |  Posted: October 09, 2012

The Ritz pub was forced to close as trouble flared.

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Football hooligans who were involved in a clash in a Lincoln pub are being targeted by Lincolnshire Police.

Trouble flared between rival supporters before the Lincoln City and Luton Town match on October 6, in the Ritz pub on the High Street.

Police are appealing for witnesses to come forward as they search for between 20 and 25 football hooligans involved.

Operation Hartford has been launched to ensure that they are identified and arrested.

Furniture and glasses were thrown during the violent disorder and a number of people were physically assaulted when the violence broke out at around 1pm.

Two women were treated in hospital for minor injuries caused by flying glass.

The disturbance also spilled out into the High Street and Firth Road.

PC Andy Pearson said: “Two rival gangs clashed, one from Lincoln and one Luton.

"These are not football fans, they are simply hooligans and it is important that we identify all of the offenders and arrest them as quickly as possible.

“We need anyone who was in the pub or in the area to get in touch and help us with our enquiries as soon as possible.

"What took place was totally unacceptable on a busy Saturday afternoon when families are out trying to enjoy what the city has to offer.

“Over the last three years we have done a huge amount of proactive work to target thugs like this and that work will continue.

"It is essential that we send out a clear message to hooligans – you are not welcome in Lincoln.”

Witnesses can call Lincolnshire Police on 101 with information, quoting incident number 318 of October 8 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.

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  • gsx1100  |  October 12 2012, 4:46PM

    Ten out of ten for imagination eatmygoal. You'll have to tell me where I have stated that the Echo should print that it was the Lincoln fans fault, or I state the Echo was right not to print it. Or is it how you perceived my comments. OPINION: A personal view or appraisal. FACT: A truth known by actual experience or observation. My colleagues observed what happened. I only posted the facts, as told to me. So, opinion or fact? work it out for yourself Einstein. "I don't give a stuff who started it". Yes you do, that's why you're putting such puerile arguments across. If I had posted that the Luton fans were to blame, I bet you would have defended them with the same vigour. Yeah, pull the other one. Denial expected. "the it was football fans involved" followed later by "they are not really fans. Hedging ones bets there? The icing on the cake has to be,"And I won't accept there are bad apples in a group". Of course not, those lads were just helping Wetherspoons to dispose of old tables and glasses. Bless their cotton socks.

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  • eatmygoal  |  October 11 2012, 11:38PM

    But you were earlier saying that the article should say that it was Lincoln fans causing trouble not Luton fans. You then say what you says is fact. It is not fact, it is your opinion that this is what happened. So the Echo, a you later agree, are right not to report this. I couldn't give a stuff who started it, the it was football fans involved and as a football fan that means I am included in that. When Milwall fans riot it shames me. I think pointing fingers over which side started it is pointless as Roadsource said, they are not really fans of the team at all. And no I won't accept there are bad apples in a group because they is precisely the view that lead to Hillsborough. The minority meant plans were implemented that treated everyone the same.

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  • gsx1100  |  October 11 2012, 9:33PM

    I still think you're being myopic in your views eatmygoal. At present there is no trial. The statements supplied by my colleagues, if they have forwarded them, would be taken into account by the Police as they were witnesses. This is an opinion site, not a court of law or, what seems at times, a Kangaroo court. I also mentioned about CCTV in my second post. There were three of my colleagues at Wetherspoons that day and all are regulars at Sincil Bank. Why would they lie about what happened? I don't believe the article is misleading. It's not like days gone by, where a reporter was sent down to an incident and interviewed witnesses. Those days have gone and the readers have to rely on a brief report which, I assume, is supplied by a third party. While the Echo team are often berated for their reporting, I think, on the whole, they do a decent job. I can understand your frustration regarding the minority dragging the majority down. The same applies to the motorcycling (motorcycling, not biking, Roadscource!!) world. The speeding 'bike is more memorable, as is the hooligan, rather than the decent majority. I am willing to accept that there are bad apples within the circles in which I move, but are you?

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  • mrpdoff  |  October 11 2012, 9:31PM

    gsx1100 i would give up now eatmygoal is on your case, running his/her critique as per usual,he/she will have the last word,as sure as eggs is eggs.Good luck though.

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  • gsx1100  |  October 11 2012, 6:19PM

    Do you deliberately go out of your way to be dim roadscource? Well done for completely quoting out of context. If you care to re-read the last paragraph, you will find it wasn't directed at either Lincoln City or football in general.

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  • eatmygoal  |  October 11 2012, 6:16PM

    "My work colleagues stated what they witnessed, not gossip passed on by a mate. So yes, it is a fact." Well we best skip the trial then and convict everyone who watches Lincoln and was in that pub as guilty and all those who support Luton as innocent and no further questions to ask. Ignore any other evidence such as CCTV, other witness statements, just what a work collegue said. Much cheaper form of justice. "I haven't said that the article was misleading" No but it was implicit in what you were saying. And then you go on to say it is just your opinion but before that you were talking about facts. I am disputing your version of what a fact is, not your opinion. "It seems to me, after looking at your previous posts, which are mainly Lincoln City orientated, you've spat your dummy out because someone has had the audacity to go against the club or it's supporters" Setting aside the fact that I am football fan over above Lincoln and hate to see people dragging football through the mud whatever side they are on. Who I support does not change the fact that currently investigations are going on as to who was involved in the altercation and therefore no mention was made in the article about who was to blame for the action.

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  • Roadscource  |  October 11 2012, 5:23PM

    "you've spat your dummy out because someone has had the audacity to go against the club or it's supporters" This has got nothing to do with Lincoln City Football Club or football. It wasnt within the grounds or during the match. If im on my way to the annual Hula Hoop Convention and 2 hours earlier get caught up in a brawl, does that make me a Hula Hooligan.....No. It turns my stomach every time idiots like these are labelled with anything to do with football. Never mind banning them from football matches, ban them from society.

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  • gsx1100  |  October 11 2012, 12:06PM

    Okay, eatmygoal, let's straighten the facts. My work colleagues stated what they witnessed, not gossip passed on by a mate. So yes, it is a fact. I haven't said that the article was misleading, I said, in my opinion, it didn't cover some of the facts. Unless things have considerably altered, I'm sure opinions are still allowed, even if you don't agree with them. I neither know, nor care whether either party were wearing club shirts, which I find, personally, one of the most ridiculous sights. I don't think It would really take a genius to work out who was who. It seems to me, after looking at your previous posts, which are mainly Lincoln City orientated, you've spat your dummy out because someone has had the audacity to go against the club or it's supporters. Therefore anything that is detrimental to their reputation won't be relevant to you.

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  • eatmygoal  |  October 11 2012, 10:50AM

    @gsx1100, they are not facts though are they? They are what your mate said happened. Were the Luton fans in Luton kits and Lincoln fans in Lincoln kits so that it was clear exactly who was doing what? I don't think the article is misleading, it just says two sets of fans were in a pub and trouble broke out. That is the key point and making it clear who was or wasn't innocent is not really relevant at all.

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  • Roadscource  |  October 11 2012, 9:59AM

    "Like they only cause trouble between the hours of what 12 and 5?" No. Like they only cause trouble getting drunk before a match. Thus they will not be causing trouble getting drunk before a match cause its over, then will not be called "football" hooligans.

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